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On 24/09/2017 at 9:51 AM, Arpee said:

Well I mean, it's the same combo i said up above that does  275? 

 

 

My bad, got so caught up in lab work i forgot to check back in the thread xD

 

Lakenzu's Dragunov style combo works off Jump-in Y too for 228

 
Been working on Bullet punch combos for corner, as it seems like a way to surprise a zoning opponent with a cheeky combo

 

 

 

Managed to get 223 Midscreen with a fun combo (stolen from mcDareth on stream last night, though probably remembered wrong)

Little unreliable for my taste though

 

Edited by Nix

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Don't know if it's known or not, but you can [YX] HY Bullet punch. 

I haven't worked on optimizing it or even if it's worth it since you can 6XX a lot more consistently, but it sure looks cool

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Found this while trying to work on Metal claw punishes, i can't seem to find anything better for a long range hit

 

And some stupid stuff i found while playing around

Metal claw, Cubone, Counter attack and Super in one combo

And Super doing exactly 1 Damage:

Edit 11/10/2017

 

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It's been a couple weeks so i'm doubleposting, fight me

Some grab read combos:

 

 

 

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Bug Bite VS X-Scissor: When to use which combo finisher

First things first, lets acquaint ourselves with the basic damage values of Bullet Punch and its follow-ups.
 -Bullet Punch (all 5 hits, no followup): 60
 -Bullet Punch > X-Scissor: 108 (124 with successful just frame)
 -Bullet Punch > Bug Bite (only true if Bullet Punch hits an aerial opponent): 130

Now lets see the use of these finishers in Scizor's trademark combo:
 -5YY > 6AA > 6YX > 4Y > 2Y > 1A~X: 184 (186 with just frame)
 -5YY > 6AA > 6YX > 4Y > 2Y > 1A~Y+B: 208

And a jump in combo:
 -jX > 6YX > 1A~Y+B: 170
 -jX > 6YX > 1A~Y+B: 148 (150 with just frame)

So it seems that Bug Bite is always gonna be your go-to mid-screen finisher, but how about the wall? Lets take a (very) basic wall combo that allows for both follow-ups.
 -5YY > 6AA > 2X > 1A~X: 198+30 (200+30 with just frame)
 -5YY > 6AA > 2X > 1A~Y+B: 220

This is more interesting. Ending in X-Scissor deals more total damage, but the last 30 damage of it can not kill. Ending in Bug Bite deals more true damage, but less total damage.
That being said, there is a better combo that only allows for a x-Scissor finish:
 -5YY > 6AA > 6YY > 1A~X: 203+30 (205+30 with just frame)

And on some characters (expect a specific list from me soon) you can do this for more damage:
 -5YY > 6AA > 6YX > 6Y > 1A~X: 210+30 (214+30)

Cant quite reach the true damage of the Bug Bite finisher, but X-Scissor is usually better as it leads to more total damage.

Long story short: Use Bug Bite as your primary combo finisher, but at the wall X-Scissor is usually the better option

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