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Ultimate Combo Thread

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Santa’s guide:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16NVQqFnIKcK3WF0aIflXbaTuGbe1Caz8aGNPH_nbPPA/edit

 

Empoleon shoryuken wiki:

http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Empoleon

 

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Combo videos:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=eMtxrfvKQXo (early DX combo video)

 

https://youtu.be/g5rOZpnl1IY (beginners guide)

 

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BnBs:

BASIC "GOOD-TO-KNOWS"

 

5A(1/2)~Y - 92/112 (5A~X - 124/144)

5A(3)~A - 139 + Def. Down (5A~B - 174)

(Burst) 5A(3)~BA - 250

 

4A~B - 152

(Burst) 4A~BA - 228

(Burst) 4A~A - 137 + Def. Down

 

j.Y > 2Y > 5A(1)~Y - 106-112 (5A(1)~X - 114-120)

 

(aerial) 8Y > 8A~X - 139

 

6[A] > sf.A - 136-192

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Hydro Cannon

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/1131626870422638592

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2X

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/1131627049842429957

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6Y(Y)

 

https://twitter.com/Raikel_RBM/status/914011534967402496

 

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4X

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/998966556930404353

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jA(Steel wing)

jA (one hit)

 

Main:

jA (W!) 2[X] jY jY jY = 218 (Non-Cross) & 188 (Cross)   // Non-Cross Only: jA (W!) 2[X] jY jA 2[X] jA = 233 OR jA (W!) 2[X] jY jY jA 6YY = 233

 

Pokemon That Cross*: Chandelure, Empoleon, Aegislash, Shadow Mewtwo, Braixen, Gardevoir, Machamp, Charizard, Decidueye, Lucario, Gengar, Suicune, Blaziken, Mewtwo, and Darkrai

 

Pokemon That Don't Cross*: Scizor, Aegislash, Garchomp, Pikachu Libre, Weavile, Pikachu, Sceptile, and Croagunk

https://twitter.com/UnoptimallyNiko/status/1034978266614968320

https://twitter.com/UnoptimallyNiko/status/1034978370935697408

 

jA (two hits)

Main: jA (W!) 2[X] jY jY jY = 273 (Non-Cross) & 243 (Cross)     // Non-Cross Only: jA (W!) 2[X] jY 4A~B = 274 OR 4A~B~R jY = 275

 

Pokemon That Cross*: Blastoise, Aegislash, Shadow Mewtwo, Gardevoir, Machamp, Charizard, Lucario, Gengar, Suicune, Chandelure

 

Pokemon That Don't Cross*: Blastoise, Aegislash, Scizor, Garchomp, Mewtwo

 

Some pokemon can be Non-Cross and cross, but be careful, because you can accidentally move them away from the wall, such as Blastoise and Aegislash.

(* Pokemon not on the list just can't be hit at all by select terms)

For both jA combos, you can replace any jY after the first with jA to get a hard knockdown.

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6A(Ice beam)

 

6[A] Combo:

Main: 6[A] sf.A (W!) 2[X] jY jY = (Max Damage Only): 264 (Non-Cross) & 228 (Cross)  // Non-Cross Only: 6[A] sf.A (W!) 2[X] jY jA 4A = 272

 

Pokemon That Cross: Blastoise, Garchomp, Braixen, Suicune, Shadow Mewtwo, Pikachu Libre, Gardevoir, Charizard, Pikachu, Gengar, Lucario, Chandelure, Sceptile, Empoleon, Mewtwo, Croagunk, Darkrai

 

Pokemon That Don't Cross: Aegislash & Weavile

Pokemon That This Doesn't Work On: Scizor, Machamp, Decidueye, and Blaziken

 

 

6A Combo Damages from above:

 

Main: 6[A] sf.A (W!) 2[X] jY jY    // Alternate (Hard Knockdown w/ Cross Only OR W! with Non-Cross): 6[A] sf.A (W!) 2[X] jY jA

 

Cross Damages: 228, 216, 204, 192, 180                  

   //       Alternate Damages: 229, 215,  201, 187, 173

Non-Cross Damages: 258, 246, 234, 222, 210

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5A(Aqua Jet)

 

5A Combo:

 

Main: 5A~Y (W!) 2[X] jY jY = (Max Damages Only): 188 (Non-Cross) & 202 (Cross)

 

Pokemon That Cross:

:ShadowMewtwo::Braixen::Gardevoir::Machamp::Charizard::Decidueye::Lucario::Gengar::Suicune::Chandelure::Blaziken::Mewtwo::Empoleon:

 

Pokemon That Don't Cross:

:Scizor::Blastoise::Aegislash::Garchomp::Pikachu::PikachuLibre::Weavile::Sceptile::Croagunk:

Level 1, 2, and 3 Cross Damages: 158, 176, 192

Level 1, 2, and 3 Non-Cross Damages: 188, 206, 222

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5A(3)B~jA (Aqua Jet to Surf cancel Steel Wing):

 

5A(3)~BR~jA (W!) 2X 5Y 4A~BR~ jY 4A~Y (262 damage) <https://twitter.com/i/status/1123944185852243969>

Against Chandelure, Gengar* and Machamp, you still land 1 hit from Steel Wing but the follow ups are different.

 

5A(3)~BR~jA (W!) 8Y 2Y 4A~B~R jY jA (257 damage)   <https://twitter.com/i/status/1123948488302235650>

Works on: Chandelure and Machamp

 

5A(3)~BR~jA (W!) 5Y 4A~BR~jY 4A~Y (257 damage)   <https://twitter.com/i/status/1123947833730768896>

Works on: Gengar and Machamp

 

Against Aegislash, Blastoise, Gengar* and Suicune you’ll get both hits of Steel Wing after the Surf Cancel.

Optimal against them: https://twitter.com/i/status/1123603173325791234

 

5A~BR~jA (W!) 8Y 8A~X (273 damage)

 

*: Oddly enough, you can get either a single hit of jA or both hits of jA on Gengar depending on the timing of jA. An early jA gets a single hit and a late jA gets both hits in. <https://twitter.com/i/status/1123945050843512832>

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5A(3)Y > W! > 2[X] > sl.Y > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AY

(224 + 30)

 

5A(3)B > W! >  5Y > 4ABR > j.Y > j.A

(225 + 30)

 

5A(2)Y > W! > 2[X] > sl.Y > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AA

(205 + 30 + Def debuff)

 

5A(3)Y > W! > 5Y > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AY

(218 + 30)

 

5A(3)Y > W! > 2[X] > sl.Y > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AB (Y works too with the same damage)

(220 +30)


 

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5X

 

Level 3 AJ Combo

 

5X 4X 2[X] SL Y 5ABR jY 4AY

 

Works on: BlastoiseHD.png.0fac95dad406d2fda4e849a08dc7e84d.pngBraixenHD.png.86be58ee9a6c46b30d1053402a6cfa1e.pngLucarioHD.png.cb8f419cb4d35a8de06a8650cc83eec6.pngSuicuneHD.png.df68b76d4dd3110ff201fc34b09c29ab.pngDecidueyeHD.png.0878dcc20738e6dfe3b0b4e96a9a8073.png

 

https://twitter.com/Lario__/status/1090326537436508160


 

Big Boy Defog Combo

 

5X 4X 2[X] SL Y 4ABR jY 5Y 5AX

 

Works on: AegislashHD.png.f8c790f684faea4ec5b773cb13f83935.pngBlazikenHD.png.a856f6be5ce973ffe030975bb696a60c.pngCharizardHD.png.7d6c538a32dc19fef6ed0fdc54475111.pngDarkraiHD.png.17965083fd84f7975ee61f67b7c682f5.pngGardevoirHD.png.4cf7ab413c5051beb4ae2e6dc04a62c7.pngScizorHD.png.620cf84e7449cafe20fa4544b16729fa.png

 

https://twitter.com/Lario__/status/1090327323860070400

 

 

Small Boy Defog Combo

 

5X 4X 5Y 4ABR jY 5Y 5AX

 

Works on:CroagunkHD.png.1a3561d228a3e9d7c204dee48757ef9b.pngGengarHD.png.d33456fc2d893d5dacb787f3960d95c9.pngPikachuHD.png.dd5cd14ea550ac2db748b9627b06074e.pngPikachuLibreHD.png.b24499344ea94308248941df982798a0.pngWeavileHD.png.6e0193b55c6851bfddada2062b2cc41f.png

https://twitter.com/Lario__/status/1090328022366937089

 

 

Thanks to Galladeknight for finding this next combo, specifically for Sceptile with some tight jy timing

 

5X 4X 2[X] SL Y 5ABR jY 5Y 4AX

 

Works on:SceptileHD.png.9f68baebf5a9bcca00d61117a1025a36.png

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/1091026410645254144

 

And those are all. Now you might have noticed that not all characters were included here, that's because for these lucky fuckers, being:

ChandelureHD.png.ab01da29413987e3d2ba7121dd129ef6.pngEmpoleonHD.png.c66d4098dbf3b34f6e2640bc96bb26f6.pngGarchompHD.png.9da472d144a77a3c42aec68b9c922239.pngMachampHD.png.a9d8c7db264762a066ed7c98c17f6774.pngMewtwoHD.png.6c164380865f9d1d06082a1d79bec5a9.pngShadowMewtwoHD.png.771fbcdb8c6005ff60aafb68a1607696.png

I have been unable to find a combo from a 5X that does over 200 damage without the wall. So just go for the Ice beam or Debuff routes, they're still pretty damaging regardless.

 

If someone happens to find something for these characters, please tell me and I will update it!

 

And that is all, happy slashing everyone!

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5x route

def debuff ez: [Blank]

def debuff hard: [Blank]

damage: [Blank]

8 psp: [Blank]

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4A(Defog)

 

Can be canceled into Rock smash, Surf, Waterfall or Cut

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/1070084820988919808

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5Y

 

(Burst)https://twitter.com/Surfing_Santa/status/1120984080873447424

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8A

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/980159760644292609

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/972896429281656833

 

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8X

 

8X 2[x]Y 4AB~Y 4AY 223

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2Y

 

2y 5ay 5y 4AB~Y 4AY 202

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2X

 

2X > W! > ij.A > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AX

(215 + 30)

2X > W! > 5Y > 4ABR > j.Y > 4AX

(208 + 30)

 

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CA

 

https://twitter.com/galladeknight31/status/1025865439753064448

 

CA Route

Defense Debuff (Easy)

4X Link

Character specifics:

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https://twitter.com/Surfing_Santa/status/1110673133218877440

 

[CA] > 5Y[X] > sl.X > 4X > 2[X] > 5Y > 5AA

(153 + Defense debuff)

 

6YY Link

Character specifics:

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https://twitter.com/Surfing_Santa/status/1110677205980307456



 

[CA] > 5Y[X] > sl.X > 6YY > 5AA (152 + Defense debuff)

Defense Debuff (Hard)

Character specifics:


 

https://twitter.com/Surfing_Santa/status/1110680873832083456

 

[CA] > 5X > 4X > 1[X] > slj.Y > 5Y > 5AA (163 + Defense debuff)

 

Damage

Character specifics:

 

[Example needed]

[CA] > 5Y[X] > sl.X > 4X > 2[X] > slj.Y > j.Y (163)

Low PSP

 

[Example Needed]

[CA] > 5Y[X] > sl.X > 5Y > 5AX (143)

If 4 PSP has already been used

 

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jX

 

j[X] 5X 6[A]A 198

j[X] 5Y5AY W! 2[X]Y 4AB~Y 4A 216 + 30

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jY

 

https://twitter.com/Kaiikz_/status/1128203079290015744?s=09

 

jY 5X 4X 2[X] 5Y 5AB~Y 4X 175

jY 5X 5YX W! 5Y 4AB~Y jA ~192 + 30

jY -> AJ combo

jY -> 6A combo

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